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 楼主|发表于 2010-4-17 13:32 | 个人空间 | 显示全部楼层 | 收藏本帖
1。全世界脊椎外科水平最高的医院:韩国的我立德脊椎医院。
年间手术数超1.5万次。其中腰椎治愈率为95%〜98%,术后复发率为1.2%
每年大概有100多中国人去那里做手术。如果有经济条件,建议到韩国的我立德汉城医院。

2。日本的岩井外科医院(日本MED手术次数最多的医院)
治愈率为95%,术后复发率为2.5%

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这些数据的来源是什么


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原帖由 行者无僵 于 2010-4-17 14:20 发表
这些数据的来源是什么


From Japanese web site.


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手术的成功率是很高的,国内的情况也是如此,国内研究的文献中手术的成功率都在90%以上。
但是患者是否符合手术的适应症,手术后能否坚持保养和锻炼预防复发就依个体差异了。


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kind of the website is?
the third** or the subjection of hospital?
we should make clear distinction when we in the face of large numbers of medical information
anyway,i've no idea to this info


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发表于 2010-4-17 15:33 | 个人空间 | 显示全部楼层
我只能说 并不是这样 看来得发贴说说我的美国朋友的意见了


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发表于 2010-4-17 15:51 | 个人空间 | 显示全部楼层
国内的统计数字水分太大,出院的时候状态稳定就算治愈了,至于国内的论文就更是垃圾了。
真正了解一下并非如此。


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发表于 2010-4-17 16:39 | 个人空间 | 显示全部楼层
大概是国内手术水平与国际尚有一定的差距,至于手术后发病率他们总是在搪塞,总是以个体差异来掩饰术后的发病率,而且手术费用高。所以,国人一般不愿意选择手术,有钱人干脆跑到国外花钱治疗了。
    什么叫成功率,和有效率有区别吧。凡是手术后达到满意 基本满意 及格都算作是有效率,这个比例比较高,这是当初我咨询建议手术的专家给我的答复。至于术后多少能达到完全没有症状的 连专家都没有底。


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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-17 16:46 | 个人空间 | 显示全部楼层
The first date was from Nikkai business, a well-known weekly magazine, whose date is more believible than business week.
The second one was from the hospital's website. I may take surgery in this hospital.

原帖由 行者无僵 于 2010-4-17 15:17 发表
kind of the website is?
the third** or the subjection of hospital?
we should make clear distinction when we in the face of large numbers of medical information
anyway,i've no idea to this info



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good luck


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原帖由 突出的琦人 于 2010-4-17 15:33 发表
我只能说 并不是这样 看来得发贴说说我的美国朋友的意见了


我刚从美国治疗回来。美国最尖端的医疗水平是非常不错。但由于其糟糕的医疗制度(所以美国总统要搞医疗改革),一般老百姓能享受的医疗服务比日本,欧洲,韩国等差远了。
每年有上千美国人到韩国我立德脊柱医院接受手术。


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发表于 2010-4-17 20:52 | 个人空间 | 显示全部楼层

早日康复

复发太多数应该是习惯决定比如又回到以前久坐久站,姿势不正,受损的腰象玻璃般脆没有以往钢铁般坚韧,所以得了富贵病应以轻松生活才能保证康复。


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韩国我立德脊柱专科医院真的这么牛呀,世界第一。真的吗?


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原帖由 slippeddisk 于 2010-4-18 02:46 发表
韩国我立德脊柱专科医院真的这么牛呀,世界第一。真的吗?


你在国外,可以很容易查到各种对比资料。作为一般人都能接受手术的脊柱专科医院,我立德脊柱专科医院(Wooridul Hospital)可以说是世界第一。如果你非要找比我立德牛的医生,你肯定能找到,如美国杜克大学医院的几个有名医生及日本西岛医院的院长西岛雄一郎。但除非你是权贵或者你的脊椎病非常罕见,你能得到美国日本名医治疗的机会非常小。

一些最新的微创手术法也是我立德医院(Wooridul Hospital)开发出来的。如内视镜激光(discectomy using endoscopic laser)等。其现在被公认为脊椎方面的世界领袖及最好的医院。详细你可以看看一家世界医疗评价机构(All[地址=http://www.allmedicaltourism]llMedicalTourism]MedicalTourism)对其的评价。
[地址=http://www.allmedicaltourism.com/Directory/Wooridul-Hospital]http://www.allmedicaltourism.com/Directory/Wooridul-Hospital

Wooridul Hospital - The Specialized General Hospital with Spine Total Care System
The World Leading Spine Hospital of Minimally Invasive Spine Surgery
1. Incomparable Pioneer Wooridul Hospital established in Busan in 1982, has been trying to be the world’s leading spine hospital with the state of the art equipment and technology. Based upon minimally invasive treatment principle, Wooridul Hospital has investigated and developed various spine treatments to act up to patients’ expectation for minimal scars and fast recovery. Wooridul Hospital manages directly each hospital in Seoul Gimpo Airport, Seoul Chungdam, Busan Onchun, Busan Dongrae and Daegu and has the most advanced medical technology and equipment of the digitalized surgery, the non-surgical treatment and the rehabilitation treatment. Recently, Wooridul Hospital opened Shanghai Wooridul Hospital in 中国 and will have expansion to Turkey, UAE and Spain as well as Jaeju Island.
Wooridul Hospital which opened a brand-new clinic at Gimpo International Airport takes a roll to be a center of ‘ShangSeTo Medical Belt’ among Shanghai, Seoul and Tokyo to be a leader of medical service in Asia and to inform the advanced medical treatments and technologies of Korea all over the world. Based on the present achievements, Wooridul Hospital is emerging as the Neuro-Musculoskeletal Disease Center not only for the general spine disorders but also for the metastatic spine cancers (using 4th generation cyberknife) and the joint disorders (using computer assisted navigation). Wooridul Hospital always holds stick to the minimally invasive philosophy to save the normal tissues, minimize the excision and reduce the complications. With these untiring efforts, Wooridul Hospital provides ‘Spine Total Care System’ as a specialized general hospital in the united over 1,200 employees including 130 doctors.
2. The World Best Hospital of Minimally Invasive Spine Surgery
Wooridul Hospital drew public attention by developing the world’s first discectomy using endoscopic laser. Minimally invasive spinal surgery is judged to be a great success in lumbar, cervical and thoracic treatment area. According to the research result in 2002 from the 19 international spine specialized centers that perform minimally invasive spinal surgery, Wooridul Hospital has performed 8,000 cases and took the first ranking.
The most common disease treated by minimally invasive spinal surgery is lumbar disc herniation. The soft lumbar disk herniation is defined as when the annulus fibrosis surrounding disc between the vertebral bodies is torn and the nucleus pulposus is herniated so that it could compress the nerve root and spinal cord. It could cause either back pain or leg pain.
The conventional open surgery is performed under the naked eye that it requires a huge incision. Meanwhile Wooridul Hospital’s Minimally Invasive Spinal Surgery (MISS), like as Percutaneous Endoscopic Lumbar Discectomy (PELD), is not conventional excision but a treatment which is between the conservative and open surgery. With the 0.6cm of endoscope, the surgeon could observe the inside with safety. Patient is in prone position under the local anesthesia so as to communicate with the surgeons and nurses. Microlaser is precise enough to make a 0.3mm spot between fingerprints. PELD preserves vertebrae and normal nucleus pulposus and removes only the lesional site so that there is no risk of evoking the neural adhesion. In addition, it is bloodless surgery and no transfusion is required. It saves the time and the costs. Due to rapid recovery compared to open surgeries, it is desirable for the workers or students with the desire of early return-to-work.

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另外,根据国際微创脊柱手術学会(ISMISS)对世界19家主要脊柱病院的調査、我立德病院的成功率和手術数,都是世界第一。


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上海也有一个分院,Oschs就是那的


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